[chconline]

I've been driving for a long enough time, and I've never had any tickets before. Not even parking. And it's sad to say that I actually got my first ever ticket today.

Now for those of you who thinks I have a notorious driving record, it's 100% clean -- and this citation is not even because I was speeding! I got pulled over for doing 69km/h in a 60 zone (Which the guy was letting me off with a warning) and normally I would have seen him, or at least watched my speed, but I was not driving my car at the time. I somehow found a photocopy of my insurance, but I just couldn't find the registration. I was 100% sure it's in the car at the time, but I can't seem to find it, and it's not my vehicle, and I was in a hurry to school so I had to get going.

5 minutes after I left, I realized that there was an upper compartment of the glovebox in the Honda Odyssey, and in there was the registration and original insurance copy.

This is absolutely stupid and a $172 fine for that!? I dropped by a local police station and they can't drop the ticket, but they can find the guy who wrote the ticket to drop it. He couldn't get a hold of the guy, but he did message him as well as clear instructions on how to get in contact with him. Hopefully I'll get it sorted.

[shc-boomer]

Ouch, hope you get it sorted out or else you got pretty owned. Bad habits catch up to you sometimes I guess.

[chconline]

shc-boomer, on 23 February 2010 - 10:07 PM, said:

Ouch, hope you get it sorted out or else you got pretty owned. Bad habits catch up to you sometimes I guess.

I am not sure if you read my post, but what bad habits?

[shc-boomer]

chconline, on 23 February 2010 - 10:27 PM, said:

I am not sure if you read my post, but what bad habits?

chconline, on 21 February 2010 - 02:10 PM, said:

I did 162km/h (100-ish mph) in my Civic... also at a local track.

[chconline]

That was a local track

And this was not a ticket for speeding, if you actually read the post.

[TL6MT]

lol another post Kenneth didn't read right. Hopefully you can get off, these are uncalled tickets. It's sad the cop didn't even accept reasoning that its your Dad's car not yours and let you off the hook.

This post has been edited by TL6MT: 23 February 2010 - 11:10 PM

[shc-boomer]

I know, it was for your registration. But again, sometimes just bad habits catch up in different ways. If you catch my drift here.

[chconline]

Nope, sorry I do not catch your drift.

[shift]

So basically you got a ticket for not being able to provide insurance / registration papers for your car at the time of being pulled over when in fact they were in the glove box and now you are trying to get the papers reversed.

[redeemed]

Here in Australia, a full-licensed driver would be lucky to get away with a warning. And if the cops pulled me over for speeding (see here, under "P1 - red") well, dang, no more license

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As of 1 July 2007, new laws for P1 drivers have been introduced, including a limit of one passenger under the age of 21 between 11pm and 5am, and instant suspension for 3 months for any speeding offence.

Hope you can sort it out fairly quickly chc. Nasty things, tickets. A member of my family got excused from a ticket, but only after they were able to procure a whole ton of paperwork to prove that they had a clean traffic record for the past 10 years.

This post has been edited by redeemed: 24 February 2010 - 10:58 PM

[chconline]

Haha this doesn't go on my driving record. It's not a moving violation. I just failed to provide the papers.

Anyways I think I'll be going to court next week.

[redeemed]

Sweet, good to know haha. But how come you have to keep your car's insurance and registration papers in the car? Why does the cop ask to see them? Nothing like this here in Australia lol.

Edit: Probably because we have this:

(I couldn't find a newer pic haha, but they haven't changed that much at all in the past 10 years)

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To show that a vehicle is registered in Australia, a sticker must be displayed in the lower left corner of either the rear left window or windscreen in annual colours on a 6 year cycle: blue, red, purple, brown, green and orange. This sticker is issued to the registered owner of the vehicle upon payment of the next year's registration fee, and shows the expiry date of the registration. They are colour coded for easy recognition of the year of expiry. The sticker shows the plate number, Vehicle Identification Number, make, model, and colour of the vehicle, along with other such information. This acts as an anti-theft device, because transplanting the plates from one car to another will be in contrast to the details on the sticker.

This post has been edited by redeemed: 24 February 2010 - 11:27 PM

[chconline]

It's just a thing so they can ticket you on. They can easily verify if you car is legally registered once they run your plate through the computer.

[CrashGordon]

Yep, just show proof when you go to court and that you did have it at the time/date of the stop, they should dismiss it. At least thats how it works here in the states.

[shift]

Or if the cop that gave him the ticket doesn't even show up then all he needs to do is plead not guilty and he's off the hook.

That said, my friend's court date for an excessive speeding ticket was over a year later.

[shc-boomer]

I would say this will probably not end in chc's favor. Although everything points to it, if the cop really was that bored, he probably will go against that you had it. It's sort of hard to prove one way of the other whether it was in the vehicle at the time of the ticket or not. We will see I guess. To say you don't deserve a ticket is a lie, but this a terrible reason to get a ticket though.

This post has been edited by shc-boomer: 25 February 2010 - 01:41 AM

[chconline]

shift, on 25 February 2010 - 01:23 AM, said:

Or if the cop that gave him the ticket doesn't even show up then all he needs to do is plead not guilty and he's off the hook.

That said, my friend's court date for an excessive speeding ticket was over a year later.

Right to a speedy trial -- you can probably argue on that.

shc-boomer, on 25 February 2010 - 01:40 AM, said:

I would say this will probably not end in chc's favor. Although everything points to it, if the cop really was that bored, he probably will go against that you had it. It's sort of hard to prove one way of the other whether it was in the vehicle at the time of the ticket or not. We will see I guess. To say you don't deserve a ticket is a lie, but this a terrible reason to get a ticket though.

Nope, I can prove it. I have time witnesses at 2 police stations that I do have it on the time that I can't find it. The only reason that they can argue is that it has FAILED to provide registration, but there's justifiable excuses in that regard for a legitimate court case. Again, it depends on the person, and that I strongly do not believe I deserve this ticket in a legal stance. The reason is because the vehicle is not the one I normally operate, the compartment is unknown to be, and that I found it right after I left but due to road organization and time constraints I was unable to turn back. I know you don't like the fact that I have no tickets and are effective in seeing where the police is every single time, but it is not a legitimate reason to modify your perspective of this situation.

[shift]

chconline, on 25 February 2010 - 10:54 AM, said:

Right to a speedy trial -- you can probably argue on that.

He was prepared to argue that, but cop didn't even go to the trial so he didn't have to.

Funny thing is there was this one guy who pleaded guilty when his cop wasn't even at the trial. The one cop that DID show up had to ask judge for permission to speak to him privately outside and when they came back in he pleaded NOT guilty.

[chconline]

Haha. Anyways I am going to court next week and see if the first appearance can get my ticket dropped on Tuesday.

[TL6MT]

shc-boomer, on 23 February 2010 - 11:28 PM, said:

I know, it was for your registration. But again, sometimes just bad habits catch up in different ways. If you catch my drift here.

Nope, don't get it either.

Hopefully it will go well for you. This is a ****ty ticket.