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I know I talked to many of you (Herby, Hopkins, etc.) about this, but I need more information. Hopefully you guys can give me more direction.

 

Since I lost my job at Wal-Mart in October 2008, I have been moping around at home and searching the web high and low for a job. There are several jobs in the higher end spectrum, but I would have to go to school to get them.

 

I also looked into several computer places around town. Best Buy was full of stupid geeks, Circuit City is going bye bye, and the 3 other small businesses in town are not looking for employment, I asked them many times. I also tried at Milwaukee PC, which is a town north of us, and I heard nothing in 2 months. I also tried at all locations of Tiger Direct, their 2 outlet stores, and their warehouse, nothing in about 2 months also.

 

Now, should I:

 

1. Start my own business? Not knowing anything about operating a business, this would prove difficult. My dad could help, as he once ran a business, but he is 55, and I don't know if he remembers half of it. Unless maybe I should just hire someone to take care of the business end, I'll do the techy end. I hate the idea of franchises, but with this economy, It is nice to fall back on something if your business goes foul.

 

2. Go back to school? Learn some other trade, and keep my computer knowledge as a hobby. If I do this, what exactly should I do? I would like this to be a 2-year Associate's Degree, as I don't want to spend my next 5+ years learning something that I don't know if I'm really interested.

 

Out of the list of all Associate's Degrees given by my local Technical College gives:

 

Accounting

Administrative Assistant

Aeronautics - Pilot Training

Air Conditioning, Heating, and Refrigeration Technology

Automated Manufacturing Systems Technicain

Automotive Technology

Business Management

Civil Engineering - Architectural

Civil Engineering - Public Works

Civil Engineering - Survey

Criminal Justice

Culinary Arts

Early Childhood Education

Electrical Engineering Technology

Electrical Engineering Technology - Biomedical Engineering Technology

Electromechanical Technology

Electronic Technician

Fire Protection Technician

Graphic Communication

Health Information Technology

Horticulture - Greenhouse and Floral

Horticulture - Nursery and Landscaping

Hotel Hospitality Management

Human Services Associate

Individualized Technical Studies

Individualized Technical Studies - Journeyworker

Industrial Mechanical Technician

Instructional Assistant

Interior Design

Interpreter Technician

IT - Computer Support Specialist

IT - Network Specialist

IT - Programmer/Analyst

IT - Web Developer/Administration

Marketing - Business to Business

Marketing - General Marketing

Mechanical Design Technician - Mechatronics

Mechanical Design Technology - Engineering Tech

Nursing

Paramedic Technician

Physical Therapist Assistant

Radio Broadcasting

Radiography

Supervisory Management

Surgical Technology

Technical Communications

 

The ones that interest me are:

 

Aeronautics - Pilot Training -- Big Bang, is this very hard to do, as I do not drive? As far as I know, you will always be with another person in the cockpit.

 

Early Childhood Education -- I do like working with kids, the youngest I worked with were around 7. I've worked with a wide range of kids also, (7-18) having been in Cub/Boy Scouts since 1991. I have been an adult leader for almost 4 years.

 

Radio Broadcasting -- I dunno, something that sounded interesting, why not?

 

Technical Communications -- Write, illustrate, layout and electronically publish materials such as instructional brochures, service literature, catalog literature, promotional literature, grant proposals and web pages. I have written several guides for friends and family, how much harder can this be?

 

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If you have any other suggestions what I should do, please do not hesitate to say so. Also, any questions, please ask.

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There are a bunch of things to do :ph34r:

 

Going back to school is never a bad thing, and will probably help you get a job elsewhere in the future. Do you really see yourself as a radio broadcaster in 10 years? I'm not trying to discourage you, but future job positions in that field may be hard to come across. You should also keep in mind if you'd enjoy working in that field for a while. Technical Communications probably won't be that difficult, but it can get tedious really fast.

 

Best Buy? There's nothing wrong with Best Buy. Sometimes you just don't get to work with the people you like, but a job is a job.

 

And...we're geeks too :)

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Thanks for the input, rev.

 

I agree with the above, but radio broadcasting is just something that sounded interesting, not really my forte.

 

I agree, Technical Com. can get tedious at times.

 

I tried getting a job at Best Buy several times, no such luck. I agree, a job is a job, but if you aren't happy with it, you won't get really far.

 

A friend did suggest to start an online business. I'm currently trying to look into that.

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True, but a lot of times you have to bite the bullet and just either ignore the employees you don't get along with or sort out your differences.

 

Starting an online business is much harder than it seems.

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I wouldn't start a business yourself at the moment. It is too complicated and more difficult that you think it is as aforementioned.

 

Go into anything that has an Engineering label on it. Engineering means good. :ph34r:

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That would prove hard for me, chc. If I got to any engineering degree, there is Calculus and Physics. Unlike you, I am not a math whiz. Algebra is my limit..

 

I do agree that starting my own business is hard, but if I can find nothing else, why not?

 

@Shift - I worked with difficult people at Wal-Mart. 3 guys just wanted to sit down and do nothing. We do take it easy from time to time, but these guys were very lazy, they didn't want to push carts. I try to push the guys, but they wouldn't budge. So I just went out and pushed up a whole mess of carts. 3 months later, all 3 of them were fired.

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Aeronautics - Pilot Training -- Big Bang, is this very hard to do, as I do not drive? As far as I know, you will always be with another person in the cockpit.

 

I would say No because I've been operating Aircraft for many years. Being able to Drive has little relevance in at least Commercial Pilot (I was never a fighter Pilot which are different in training, and Air Force requires very good Physical stuff and going through more G-Forces training, whatever they are Called -- chc can Explain) but it does get you Familiar with operating machines so I would say personally it Helps but not significant since they are REALLY different. However you cannot Rely on the Co-Pilot or if you are the main guy. In General I really like my Job but it's all about Experience. Being a Pilot through Training is very challenging and being the Standby pilot is also Stressful at first. Most of your Skills don't come in to works unless it's an Emergency modern day Aircrafts can very much operate it self, so you still need to keep up on your Training and technical knowledge it's a Combinnation of a lot of things.

 

I wouldn't say it's Harder than something like Engineering but the Applications are different as Engineers are more in Project work and designing things that Works depending on your specialize - it's very important that Things are Done Right otherwise others will die; but Pilots really rely on the person's Physical and Mental capabilities and how to Stay Calm in life-death situations and know to Think Fast or You will die as well.

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Thanks for that, Big Bang.

 

It's like the guy who landed the plane in a lake because of birds getting stuck in one of the propellers.

 

I'm not sure if this is for me, though.. I have till August to think about what I'm about to do.

 

I did, however, complete an application for Best Buy, as a Sales Associate in the computer area, Radio Shack, as a Sales Associate, and at a video game rental store.

 

Hope I get at least one :ph34r: More, the merrier.

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Starting your own business is by no means something to 'fall back on'. What kind of business are you looking to start (what skills have you acquired from other jobs/education which you can transplant to your own business)?

 

No offense, "why not" is an extremely bad reason to start a business, especially if you can't find other jobs or have your own trade.

 

Is there a reason you applied only for retail positions? Food service, courier, grocery, and other industries always need entry level guys to do the crappy/tedious work.

 

 

If you are serious about college but aren't really sure what the programs are about (beyond what the pamplets say), you should take some summer courses (usually June/July/early August) while doing your day job :ph34r:

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Thanks Ty.

 

I have a degree in computers, I would like to create a computer sales/repair job, but I have next to no business ethics..

 

I had enough with Food Service.. I worked at a Pizza place during high school. I worked like once or twice a week, I used to do a lot until they put me on washing dishes 1000% of the time. I worked there until they put me down for 0 hours a week... 6 months after i didn't care anymore, they went belly up.

 

I tried for grocery awhile ago, nothing came up.

 

I'll just keep chipping away...

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Well I have no idea what a computer business would be like (I guess a non-franchise shop would rely mostly on referrals), I'm sure you would have a much better idea than me on that area.

 

I wouldn't know what you're planning to do with your degree, but sampling some of the classes seem like a good idea if you do go back to school. I wished I went into open studies so I could explore the liberal arts courses.

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Just sit in... they don't take attendance... I sit in Business classes for fun on my free time at school when I have those 3 hour spares :ph34r:

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I don't think that is allowed at my technical college. I'll look up on the business courses, and see what i really need.

 

First, though, I want to send out survey fliers to the town, and see how many people would like a new computer place in town..

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Just sit in... they don't take attendance... I sit in Business classes for fun on my free time at school when I have those 3 hour spares :ph34r:

 

Free education for the win!

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I never paid for the course, I am enrolled in the Faculty of Engineering. Technically it is free education when I am in the Faculty of Business :ph34r:

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IMO you should not only go After something that Makes you Money, but Also Passion that's Reasonable and attainable based on what you can Do. Starting a Computer business may not necessary be a Wise Choice but with proper education and Experience and the will-be Competitors to gain experience and move up the Ladder is a good choice. At that point you might not even Need to start your own Business which is VERY stressful.

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I do agree, Big Bang. But, it just happens that my dad knows a lot about owning a business. He once owned a drug store. This shouldn't be too different.

 

I will find a job, though, and see if i can move up the ladder.

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Personally I would think it's quite different. Medical drug store customers are usually dealt with locally with little external competition (Such as internet); people just go with whatever's the closest and fastest and it can be a little more expensive. Additionally, everyone needs it, so the basic structure of the business is similar, but the market niche is very different therefore the business is ran very differently.

 

For the computer industry, not everyone needs it, as many can fix computers at home or drop it off at a willing friend's. Internet competition is also significant and people would not buy from you simply because of a 10 dollar difference on a 500 dollar machine. In general, it needs excelling service but it takes time to build up, and must remain small in that regard because quality and service may fall apart as business begins to grow.

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You could go into webdev... but I'm not sure about the money part. IT in general gives average wages and jobs are relatively hard to find compared to people in Business (Accounting) and Engineering (All specializations besides Software and Computer to an extent).

 

You could give Business a try, it's not hard... all my friends are acing it and University of Calgary has one of the best Business schools around (I sat in those classes as aforementioned), so others wouldn't be challenging either, additionally try taking Communication and Culture, it could be a bit of help. I heard Herbs is going into it, and you can meet other female students too :P (I think that's his plan, that guy is pretty lonely lol)

 

Just kidding haha but one of my female friends are going into Comm&Culture for similar reasons as yourself but taking a different second major to enhance this ability. You already have a degree in computer related industry and I am sure you can put that to good use. I'll leech off those classes next year when I have a chance. ;)

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All the chicks either go into health related or communications at SFU at least...lol

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